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I would not buy them. I took a heavy mechanics course and these stands are frowned upon. Why? Well there have been cases of the teeth braking and the vehicle coming down on the person. Best ones to use and the ones that have the metal pin that goes through.

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Those are way too cheap to be OTC branded jackstands, might be legit - but hard to tell from the picture. As for jacks - those are considered light duty jackstands and should be OK for the average DIYer.

 

echarleswhyte makes a valid point that very cheaply made jackstands might have subpar metallurgy and you could run the risk of those teeth breaking off. For more DIYer - the worry would be more of accidentally bumping the release mechanism and causing the jack the collapse.

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Fish

Maybe you can give me a link for a good pair of OTC JACK STANDS i can buy.

A lot of OTC jack stands I see are less than 100 so I do not know what to buy.

Frank.

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Possible that they contracted out to less expensive manufacturers to plump out their bottom line - as they generally run well over $100. Those jackstands look identical to the ones you get bundled with a cheap trolley jack.

 

The OTC jacks should look like this (note - this particular one is a 22 ton version, about $200 - way overkill for a DIYer): OTC1780.jpg

 

Flat base, wide saddle, pin engagement. The ones I have, have a round base and adjusts in 2" increments. I don't think they sell those anymore. They sort of look like these - http://www.tooltopia.com/otc-tools-1582.aspx - but hold a lot more weight. Those aluminum OTC jacks would probably work, but their load is a little too light for safely, IMO.

 

Lots of the time, just have to go to a parts store and look at the jacks there. O'Reily, Autozone, Sears, etc. - lots of places sells jack stands.

 

As far as which one you should get - that is up to you. It is one of those, how much use will it see sort of thing. I prefer not to recommend any particular piece or part for someone building up your tools. That is the fun part of DIY work, so that should be left up to you - all up to how much you want to get involved and how much you want to spend. A tool that I might find useful could be completely useless or inappropriate for someone else.

 

Parts or fluids for the car - that's a different story - I'd be too happy recommend a particular brand or part.

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Fish

I am definitely getting OTC jack stands just do not know what one to get.

What load would be good for safety. Also I thought 3 ton would be good jack for car.

How much weight do your OTC jack stands hold.

Frank.

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I think mine are 6 or 12 ton jack stands, but I don't remember off the top of my head.

 

OTC is a great brand, but I'd look at others out there as well. Norco, Snap On, Mac, Hein-Werner, Torin, US Jack, etc. Since lots of these are made overseas, have to check them out in person to make sure they look substantial and the welds all look OK. There are a few that are made in the USA - though you should still check on the welds and overall construction.

 

As for capacity - at the very least, you want ones that could hold the weight of the whole car by itself - that should be a good starting point. If your car's curb weight is 3000 lbs - want to get a minimum of a 2 ton jack stand. Don't need a 12 ton jack stand - but a 6 ton wouldn't be bad to have. Also verify the true capacity - as some jack stands are rated per PAIR!! So a pair of 2 tons jack stands might only hold up 1 ton each - have to read the label carefully. Most of the jacks stands I've seen in retail stores, are rated per pair, unless they specifically list the load per jack.

 

As with most tools - it is NOT the name brand that should be paramount, it is the proper use and placement. You could have a properly placed cheap $15 Harbor Freight jack stand do better than a poorly placed $5000 US Jack MIL spec's jack stand. I also would entertain the ratchet type jack stands as well, as most of what you'll find in this price range will be this type. Most of the better ones are designed not to loosen, if the saddle is loaded - some even have a second lock (pin) to secure the handle portion.

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Fish

Pin type is better.

If I find something I like I will probably show you before I buy it. I really value you opinion and you know more than I do.

Frank.

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I haven't seen them smaller than 22 tons. I don't think those OTC 1780 would work for your case - as I think the starting height might be above what most small to medium jacks can lift a car ~ 14", and only goes to 19" with positions every 3". Base is 14" across? That is pretty narrow, best for work in a garage with a smooth floor. Omega makes some that look similar to them, with more range - but cost would be much higher.

 

Those OTC, interestingly enough, you can find pretty much anywhere for around $175-$200. Too much money for a DIYer, IMO, never get the usage out of them.

 

Might have to look at the ratchet types, since you want ones with a pin lock - look for those with a secondary lock for safety. Some are a pin lock, some use a spring loaded pawl lock.

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How high do jack stands have to be or they come in standard heights. I am talking about what hight would I want to get for a corolla and Camry.

Frank.

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There is no standard height on the jack stands - you pick them depending on the how high you need to lift and support the car. Placement also factors into this - dependings on what job you need them for.

 

You'll have to look at the floor jack you plan on getting - that will say how high it can lift the car. Depending on where you lift up the car and where you intend to put the jack stands - that will tell you the minimum height you need them to be. You can guesstimate by lifting up the car and measure from the ground to potential stand points. Or you can just try a set of jackstands - if they don't work, bring them back.

 

Those Omega Magic Jacks - they are counter weighted in a way that when you pull on the handle, the ratcheting bar will auto-magically raises on its own - IMO, more of a gimmick than anything, though there might be some cases where that could come in handy. Still limited by the detents on the ratchet bar, so it doesn't mean the auto ratchet has infinite available positions. The other link for the Hein-Werner stands, if they are better? That is more a matter of personal preference. The Hein's are supposed to be made in the US, not sure on the Omega ones - if that means anything. Capacity is the same for both - 6 tons for the pair.

 

If they'll work - depends if you can get the car high enough to slide those stands in place. The Omega Magic jacks have a minimum height of 15.75", that particular Hein-Werner is a tad taller at 16.25". Most floor jacks will have a lift capability of around 16"-18" or more, depending on the jack - but you also have to keep in mind "where" you want to put the jack. Just because the jack has a max lift of 18", doesn't necessarily mean that a jack stand with a min height of 16" will fit everywhere you want to put it.

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