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I changed my oil and I used PENNZOIL ULTRA PLATINUM with WIX filter. This is my first time using synthetic oil.

My question is : not all oil works well with all cars/engines. What would car do or what are signed if oil is not working well in car.

I was just curious.

Frank.

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Don't worry - you'll definitely know if the car doesn't do well with the oil.

 

Most of the time, it will present itself as excessive chattering or clacking noises under the hood. Sometimes the engine seems like it doesn't want to rev, feels like it is filled with molasses, you might even see excessive oil consumption.

 

UOA will be quite useful here - will tell you how the engine is running. Might have been nice to get a baseline with the old oil first, but not necessary. You can find typical numbers for this engine on the BITOG forums, if you are curious. Or you can post up your UOA, whenever you get it done on this forum, we can chime in and tell you what we see.

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You can't get oil that is much better than what you got... If there's a problem, you can't blame it on the oil.

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Car seems to be running great with PENNZOIL ULTRA PLATINUM 5w-30 OIL with WIX filter.

I am going to do UOA at 5,000 miles. If they say it can go longer should I leave oil in past 5,000 or know matter what it say change oil at 5,000 miles.

Frank

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That is up to you and what exactly they say the total reserve alkalinity is like. With an oil like Pennzoil Ultra Platinum, unless there is something wrong with the engine or your driving conditions are extreme - leaving it go longer if they say it is fine should be no problem. How far you can actually go - that takes some work on your end.

 

To get a good sense of how long you can go - you can run it to 5000 miles, see what it looks like, if they recommend going longer - say another 3000 miles - go and see what it does at 8000 miles, resample. If it still looks OK, then you can push it in 1000 mile increments, resampling after each increment until the oil is done.

 

That should tell you what the maximum life you can expect from this oil. Then back off the mileage by something that you feel comfortable with - that now is your Pennzoil ultra platinum synthetic + WIX oil filter oil change interval.

 

Just read through some of the extended oil change procedures that some people follow on BITOG forums or similar - should give you a base to start from and make sure you are doing this smartly.

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As soon as they receive the sample - depending on how busy they are - could be a day or two. I've had samples that were turned around that day - they email you a report as soon as they finish, you can get a hardcopy by mail if you prefer.

 

Using USPS - I can usually get a report in 3-4 days tops.

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Fish

How should I take oil sample. With a vacuum pump or from stream. Because when I sample at 5,000 miles if lab says leave oil in I will leave oil in for more miles. In this case I think i should take Oil sample with pump. What so you think.

Frank.

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Correct - if your plan is to run the oil for as long as possible, to see how far you can push it - then you'll need to sample via the oil dipstick using a vacuum pump or vacuum sampling device. Blackstone-Labs has vacuum pump you can buy from there site. You can also get any number of vacuum pumps out there to do the same thing - Mityvac, etc. - just need to get hoses that will fit the dipstick tube and long enough to make it easier to sample.

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Yeah, most vacuum pumps are around that price range. I think my Mityvac pump setup was about double that price + you have to mess around finding the appropriate hose, transfer the oil sample to the sample container, etc. Blackstone's kit already has all the tubing you need + designed to connect directly to the sample container they send you in the kit - so it is ready to go when you get it. Just screw on the sample bottle to vacuum pump, stick tubing down dipstick, draw enough to fill the sample container, remove bottle/cap it/package it - send it off.

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I ordered the vacuum pump from Blackstone Labs today. Do you buy new tubing for the pump each time you use it or reuse the tubing it came with.

If you reuse tubing how do you clean it.

Frank

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You can definitely reuse it - should be the clear silicone type, possible that they cheaped out and used clear vinyl tubing. Flush it with some brake cleaner or similar solvent - let it air dry or to speed things up, blow compressed air through it (don't blow through it with your mouth - use a compressor or atleast canned air). Stick it in a plastic bag or dedicated toolbox to keep it dirt free.

 

Or if that sounds like way too much work - just throw it away and buy some clear silicone tubing with the same I.D. - stuff usually runs anywhere from 50 cents to $1.50 a linear foot. I've used clear vinyl tubing for an aquarium air pump - stuff is really cheap - something like $5 for 25 feet. But you have to check the I.D. - most of this is 3/16" I.D. - I think that pump you're getting is atleast 1/4". When you get it, you'll know. It will hold up to the oil, but it will eventually harden and break down. But it is inexpensive - so I treat it as an expendable part.

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I am curious to see how long I can get out of oil.

I drive 10k -12k miles per year. If I find out i can get 10k or any thing over that before the oil is finished means to me I can do one oil change a year.

Fish I still think it is better to do at least a min of two oil changes know matter how long I get out of oil before oil is finished.

What do you think.

Frank.

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Yup, oil is cheap compared the potential for oil issues - twice a year is pretty conservative, recommended by manufacturers and most professionals. True, you might be able to get away with one time a year - but I personally wouldn't push it like that. Much of it will be dependent on how those miles accumulate on the car.

 

Post up those UOA values when you get them - as other might be curious on how that oil does in a later 9th gen Corolla.

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