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yea, very very hard for anyone to say 'I never hear you honk' if I get into an accident where I was on the horn as they were going to hit me. I use it ALL the time in the city and for absent minded drivers around here. when my father was in town I was rounding a corner from one street to another with a business driveway right on it. woman starts to pull out infront of me and I instantly lay on the horn. she FROZE like a deer in headlights and slammed the brake, her passenger who had not yet buckled up knocked her head on the dash LOL.

 

also great when picking up people from the airport 'yea I'll just honk when I get near...no no you can't miss me.'

 

really, get one. $20 and an hour of time is soooooo worth it.

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it cracked when I went down to the tail of the dragon. pulled into my moms driveway, popped the hood to check fluids after a near non-stop 10 hour drive, didn't close the hood totally (left it on the safety latch), went inside to take a leak and was going to come right back out and push it closed (it was hot to touch!), laid down and woke up 4 hours later to a big crack across the windshield. stress from heat and a small stone chip at the base below the wiper blade came together and boned me. replacement only cost $200...but the guys kind of did a so-so job. I have a few speckles of black sealer on my dash that I'm not happy about and the front of the dash gets a little vibration around 6800RPM in 1st sometimes. nothing I can't fix.

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Oh and I used my horn yesterday to clear a parking spot out, woman hopped in her car and was just sitting there for like 3 minutes. TOOOT TOOOT, parking spot opens up.

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HA! Yeah, that horn is definitely on my list. I don't even use my horn anymore, people can't hear it, just yelling out the window is more effective.

 

Sucks about the windshield cracking like that - not too much you can do about it, the Celica has a pretty large windshield up front, if you are unlucky and have a few chips in the right places - new windshield time.

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A loud horn is like magic around here. it gets snip done!

 

 

trying to decide on winter wheels/tires combo.

 

15x6 steels with....

195/60

205/65

 

the 195/60 is stock GT size and the speedo will be spot on. the 205/65 would give me about an inch extra side wall (and about an inch higher off the ground) which is beneficial since I've managed to pack the front mouth with snow more than once. HOWEVER the speedo will read 3mph slower than my real speed at 60 (would be going 63). should be ample room in the wheel wells too...

 

now, if I am going with the 205/65 it would be an all season Dunlop SP60 which does great in snow...if I do 195/60 I'll get a General Altimax Artic snow tire (I'll price that through work, see if I can beat $64).

 

TOO MANY VARIABLES, I CAN'T DECIDE!!

 

What should I do? Be my guiding light :lol:

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That is a really tough one. There are pros and cons with both, unfortunately - can't look into a crystal ball and see how this wintertime will turn out.

 

A smaller, thinner tire would punch down through snow to the pavement more readily than a wider tire. Also a dedicated snow tire would handle ice slicked roads better than any all-season. Downside with the smaller tire is that you don't get as much ground clearance, thinner side wall, and the tendency of crunching down through the snow pack can get you stuck faster (ie, if you got stuck down to the axles or there is slush under the snow crust).

 

The wider, taller tire would tend to ride on the snow than punch through it. Extra ground clearance would be beneficial, as well as an aggressively tread tire to help scoop out deep snow. Downside is that you have to constantly remind yourself that the speedo is off, granted 3MPH is not much, but if your brain is on autopilot and you are already cruising 5-10MPH over, that could attract unwanted attention. Also you might run into traction issues on ice slicked roads - as the aggressive tread won't help you there, need a soft rubber compound and heaving siping to wick that water layer away.

 

You'll definitely have more traction characteristics from a dedicated snow tire - especially if you can get them cheap (hard to beat Tirerack's price of $64) and the roads have conditions that allow the tire to work. But if you expect that you'll get more snow and slush than ice this winter, you might find the larger tire more useful. Larger tire will act like a paddle tire, and muscle its way over and through deeper snow and slush. You gain a slight increase in ride height (1 5/16" or so), but sometimes that is all the difference between rolling and getting stuck. A narrow winter tire will have a little tougher time in deep snow and slush, trying to pump out all that slush and snow.

 

Example - I had a set of Continental snow tires I've used in the past on one of my BB Mopars. Snow cover was about 6-7 inches deep, but the snow plows didn't skim any of it off, since there was freezing rain coming later in the day. They just left the snow in place, and sprinkled sand/salt mix to help with traction. That Mopar could not drive down that road straight on those snow tires and once I did find traction, the car was rooted at that spot and I had to rock it out. Front tires were basically plowing the roads and the rears couldn't pump enough snow/slush out of the way to bite down to the pavement. Turn back around, tossed on some Goodyear All-Seasons with decent tread - 235 width vs the 205 width of the skinner snows. More tire spinning than the snows, but I was able to get to where I needed to go. Now if they skimmed the road and salted it, then the ice sheeted over that - then the snow tires would have been the better choice. Given that you are from one of the states that know snow/ice the best - I'd assume you'd run into a similar situation on the road - more snow and slush than black ice. If there was ice, probably get hit with salt fairly soon, unless you were in the boonies.

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I think I'll do the both of best worlds and do 205/65R15 in the snow tire! I need to check if I can beat Tire-Racks price through our supplier at work+tax or if Tire-Rack+shipping is cheaper.

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^^^ There you go! I'm hedging my bets this year on my car that we won't have as much snow/ice as last year and just went with some performance all-seasons on the Corolla. Bridgestone Potenza RE960AS Pole Positions.

 

The new Matrix has BFGoodrich g-Force Super Sport A/S as OEM on the car - those have got to be the second worst tires I've ever driven on. Dry grip is OK, wet grip is almost non-existent, can't wait for some snow. Planning on getting some cheaper alloys and some Bridgestone Blizzaks, but haven't decided yet.

 

Just watch, probably get 10 feet of snow this year in the DC Metro area.

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hey now, those are what I have on the celica! LOL, they're not that bad in the wet. though in hindsight and having a second car I think the celica is getting something better for the summer only since I'll be driving my moms sedan more than the celica...since I like the celica so much!

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LOL! I really had high hopes for the tires, specs are decent and BFG is a well known manufacturer.

 

I'll have to double check the DOT number and batch, as there are two possible compounds used and two manufacturing origins. Tire is a 215/45-18 which BFG doesn't normally stock, so I'm thinking these are one of those "goofy" setups that do not actually live up to its speed/traction ratings.

 

But so far bad luck on this set. Punctures are what are getting me - got the car in July, put about 12K miles since then (road trip mania) - and got a puncture in each tire.

 

So far those Bridgestones are awesome - we'll see in the wintertime, see how it works. Traction is outstanding, clean transition and smooth break aways at the limits - but it goes down the road like a touring tire, very soft - it is sore of weird. Tire noise is surprising though, tread doesn't look like it should be that noisy, but it is. I'm surprised, had Bridgestones before, but they never rode like these. I'll see if my opinion changes when I start rolling on the miles (only ~3000 miles on them now, put those on beginning of October).

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glad you like the 960's, both people who bought them on my suggestion like them as well.

 

I'll give you that the BFG's may not grab in the rain, but I don't push them. I only spin when wet if its really wet and I'm hitting 1st gear lift at full throttle or launching it from a stop. braking is fine, but I can lock them up on a dry road most of them time anyways too soo...who knows. I don't push my luck with lateral traction when its wet, but dry they're alright. they seem to get better with some miles on them as far as dry lateral traction, I have to work to push them out from under me. I'm talking hair pins at 40 or sweeping bends at 65-70-80mph before they feel like they might be on the edge of traction. granted I do feather throttle and brakes to balance the car so we may be talking apples to sardines when it comes to pushing tires.

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