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Larry Roll

Handling In High Crosswinds

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Good point, 99. The XRS should do a little better than the other models. It's riding on 195/55/16s and has a tighter suspension.

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I "assume" that the S model (latest generation Corolla) which has a lower body profile due to the front and side cladding would be superior to the regular model corolla. IS this an accurate statement, and have any owners driven both models in the wind?

 

Also, fishexpo101, what is the tire/wheel size that you went from and then went to that did not make a difference? I am surprised to read this since it is counter to others experience. ( I respect your experience with the corolla, ...just askin)

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I've driven a 7th gen Corolla LE, 8th Gen Corolla S (still own), 9th gen Corolla CE, and 1st gen? Matrix XRS (own today) - the 9th gen Corolla/Matrix are more susceptible to wind than the other two. But had nothing to do with the body cladding. Like the99coutour mentioned - only visual addon, no aero benefit. So much for the touted "aero" addons built in the newer generation of Corolla/Matrix (under body shielding, trim around glass, etc.)

 

The Matrix I could see - with the minivan-like exterior - acts like a sail in the wind - but the 9th gen Corolla was a bit surprising at first, but completely understandable. Blown around a bit more - even though it is slightly heavier, a hair wider, and has a longer wheelbase than the model it replaced, there is also in increase in ground clearance (inch higher)and overall height (~ 3 inches) on the 9th gen body.

 

As for the Corolla - I ran OEM Goodyears in the 185/65R14 sized tires - did pretty well, just no traction to speak of. Ran 205/45R16 Kuhmo and Yokohama (PLUS +2) - cornering improved immensily - but tracking on the highway with wind didn't seem to improve, surprisingly. Went to a 195/60R14 with Yokohama tires (PLUS +0) - tracking was marginally worse that the 16" wheels. Tried them both with the TRD springs - tracking was markedly improved - but with the bigger tires, it added the complication of tramlining over rougher surfaces (tendancy to follow ruts and imperfections on the road surface).

 

I do recommend that one should replace the OEM tires with better tires, at the very least. My case with my 8th gen may not have been the ideal example - since the changes were done over a period of several 10s of thousands of miles - normal suspension wear could have accounted for my experience. Note that I also said "- though on my 8th gen Corolla - didn't notice much difference" - I mentioned not MUCH difference, didn't say NO difference at all. For me - the lowering aspect gave more stability in a cross wind than an increase in tire width. As they say - your mileage may vary.

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Good point, 99. The XRS should do a little better than the other models. It's riding on 195/55/16s and has a tighter suspension.

 

 

The XRS tires and S and LE have the same width. The XRS tires are better because they are a better tires. The plus size helps with side wall stiffness, but the rubber compound is just everall better.

 

I'm running stock XRS rims and tires and a 05 LE and the difference compared to the stock tires is night and day. The tight suspention of the XRS might help out some more, but the stock suspention on the regular corolla isn't crap or anything. It acually corners just fine with upgraded tires alone. A spring and shock upgrade would help out some more, but it is plenty safe enough and then some with just upgraded tires.

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Yes, I know XRS has the same width tires as LE and S. And yes, I left out the most obvious point - XRS has good, sticky summer performance tires stock as opposed to what's on the other models.

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I found the best way to to drive any Corolla in cross winds or high winds on the open highway or any freeway is to lower the driver side window halfway and lower the rear passenger side window halfway. This it helps stabilize the the car and you will have to adjust the windows to your preferred setting that works for your car. The car is lightweight and there is nothing you can really do to make it act like a mid sized sedan that cost 5 to 10k more. Any add on or dropping the car or tire changes will alter your fuel efficiency and dropping your car makes it even more dangerous for you when driving next to SUVs trucks a commercial vehicles as you already know that your car already sits lower then those vehicles and they have a hard time seeing you as it is

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I would certainly advocate for better tires. A few months after I bought a _new_ Corolla, I replaced the tires. The OEMs tend to be whatever's cheapest for the company. My theory is that tire makers make a rubbish line that they practically give away to automakers, knowing most people replace their original tires with the exact same brand and model, because “the factory knows best.” New tires were the best change I could have made, IMHO... but they did nothing for crosswinds. I agree that dropping the car probably isn't a great idea, and most drop kits are poorly designed in any case (that is, they drop the car but do not do anything about the now-incorrect suspension geometry, and reduce the useful lifespan of the car/suspension). 

Opening the windows should indeed help, and I have also found it helpful to have one front and the diagonal rear open if any are open at all. The problem with any open windows is the parachute effect.

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I too have TRD springs they help with crosswinds and just make the car a better car IMHO. 

 

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